https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9738939/Lori-Vallow-charged-conspiracy-commit-murder-death-fourth-husband-Arizona.html?fbclid=IwAR2haqAKhF0vqWzP2aKiNyDy14kIG7SCjPxtWVXndA3Dt49wvD5xXRByYT8. By Who Is Kegan Kline, the Alleged Catfisher Being Investigated in Delphi Girls' Murder Case? In these cases, we have 4-5 separate sources, usually vaguely referred to as inside sources, testifying to the truth of something. Yes it is all speculation. Someone tries to fire the gun but it's a faulty bullet and it doesn't fire, or 2.) One of our team members talked to a detective in Kentucky a couple of years ago who told us about this expunged conviction. The Evansdale crime was committed on 7-13-12, and the Delphi crime was committed on 2-13-17. In general, the less said about the other aspects of his life the better, and they have no relationship to this case anyway. Is he into numerology? LE blew off their concerns and called off the search, citing safety concerns for the searchers but seemingly had little of the same concerns for the missing teens who could have been severely hurt and unable to help themselves, just waiting for someone in LE to find them that night. The only way they could know this is if the rumors about BG sending photos or video of the crime to Abbys phone after the crime occurred are true. There is no way he would come back later to stage anything because he wouldnt know how safe it was or how many law enforcement would be around. Also, a copy of the police scanner is available showing that Mr. Xs wife is supposed to be coming to the site to retrieve Mr. Xs truck. Suspect in Delphi murders on police radar since the killings He is wearing a deer kit, which contains five different types of knives. But the scanner doesnt say she came to bring the keys. Hes connected to a local sex offender in the area (a friend, or family membercousin?). Crime scene photos leaked? : r/LibbyandAbby - reddit Watch on Oops, we couldn't find that track. They say they want to preserve the integrity of the investigation. And I cant wait to see what they get from RL about Mr. X. They also think you get that way from your upbringing, especially with your father. Consequently, the accuracy of our statements should go up a lot too. If I were on the jury, the only thing I would care about was whether the state had proved that Mr. X committed this crime. Mr Logans home was just 1,400 feet from the location where Libby and Abbys bodies were discovered on Valentines Day 2017. I am friends with one of the parents and to my knowledge, no one has been told if this was sexual or not, only people have speculated. I find it interesting that you stated he told the girls that he was a railroad policeman so that audio must have been on one of the girls cell phones? Amazing work! No charges have been issued against Miller in relation to the Delphi case. Robert Lindsay is the leader of a sleuthing group that presently has ~230 paid members. 4) He was married many years prior. The last person on Earth to protect the killer is poor Becky Patty, God bless her mortal soul. In the first four years, two LE officers only affirmed one rumor each. Theyre Delphi related videos comparing his appearance to BG. You do a great job! Investigators think the bodies of slain Delphi girls, Abby Williams and Libby German, were staged and moved at the crime scene, court documents obtained by The Murder Sheet podcast revealed; the show's founders joined Nancy Grace and her expert guests on Wednesday's "Crime Stories" to discuss the case. What Do the Alleged Leaked Text Messages About Delphi Murders Mean? The documents, filed in 2020 and heavily redacted, do not mention the murders of Libby and Abby and he has not been accused of involvement in their deaths. Everything We Know About The Unsolved Delphi Murders. Always. You dont need a degree, credential, and a license to do this job, you know. The theory is that he was in on these murders for mercenary reasons, such as a malign desire to purchase Ron Logans land. This just doesnt bode well for him, I mean ESPECIALLY if you consider that he asked to search the Logan property and came up empty-handed. Were they are waiting for God Himself to come bring the keys? They just think its a sin that needs to be overcome. For the first time, the warrant reveals that they were killed by some type of weapon but the word is redacted in the document. He also allegedly asked his cousin to back up his story before the girls bodies had been found. Text messages have been circulating online regarding the case, as has speculation about some of the evidence that is being kept under wraps. Investigators seized several devices, but Kline contacted them a few days later about a device they hadnt seized. Ive used that a thousand times, especially when there are two or more suspects in adjacent interrogation rooms. It could explain why there was such a drastic image change of BG from first sketch to second one. Both of these people were probably ragers before, so its not like they did a U-turn. Delphi Man Reportedly Arrested in Connection to Murder of Teen Indiana LE doesnt have much in the way of good, solid evidence against Mr. X. Say for instance LE arrested Mr. X and charged him with the double homicides of these two girls. There is a press conference on Monday at 10 a.m. We will say more. Yes, the police have told us that they now think that Bridge Guy or Mr. X did Evansdale too. Furthermore, almost nothing of consequence is being said, and it reminds you of a night with your friends drinking, and no one says one thing of importance for hours. Then he needed 2-3 months of therapy to work through this traumatic experience. This would explain how he could control two teens from running away as well as using a fake gun and badge. We reported them one year before it came out in the media that they were all true. I hav followed both cases very closely. There is a main suspect who has been the main suspect for a very long time. 'I kill 8-year-old April Marie Tinsley. Mr. X is married to BP sister which makes him Libbys uncle not blood relatedheard it somewhere on the Net it would be easy for you RL to check that out . Liberty "Libby" German and Abigail "Abby" Williams. Maybe. Is there a place on your site where you can pay/register? You might consider joining us in our private group. Delphi murders: Police investigating fake model profile who contacted *The cops refer to cases of scumbag on scumbag shootings as No humans involved or public service killings. Not say that innocent people are killed and hurt in these cases and in some cases the target themselves is completely innocent. Delphi Murders if bodies were staged or posed what does that say about the killer Found an interesting article regarding the act of stating and posing bodies. Old Abigail Abby Williams. Hunting partner of Anthony Greeno, podcaster who has reported on the case avidly. Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. Cop: Come on, man, we know you did it. The voice in the clip was described as being 'not inconsistent' with that of Logan, the FBI investigation concluded. I see you may have particular interest in the Evansdale case due to proximity. Isnt that REALLY FUCKING STUPID? There is so much junk, lies, theory, you name it, it is there. He parked 1,000 feet away from Rons door, almost a quarter mile away. The only case I am familiar with is the Bittaker-Norris Murders in Southern California. If so, wouldnt the coroner be able to obtain DNA from the fetus? By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. Here are the main things that ALLEGEDLY (no proof guys, just what I received) stood out to me: 1) I got three names, of which, per your instruction, I will not provide here. Two people appear to be conflated here in your article as Mr. X. The girls took photos while strolling across the bridge, but as time passed and their family didnt hear from them, police were called for assistance. The Hanish & Bowen case have revealed this for them (thus the new direction & young BG sketch & ditching of old BG sketch in 2019 a month after Hanish)I bet Hanish was catfished using that Anthony_Shots account toohe mustve been told or overheard info about the Delphi murders & therefore removedBowen removed for either the same thing or fact she knew the truth behind Hanish murder (b/c I definitely am not buying that Kirts is bisexual & choked him out during a weird sexcapade, gimme a break). Kegan Kline cannot be involved either. My understanding was that an FBI agent was visiting family in Delphi and assisted in the search when he heard about it (as it is a very small town, most people heard about the girls missing that night and the search the night they failed to return); FBI agent assists in search as essentially a volunteer, and when it becomes apparent by late night - early morning that there may be something more sinister than the girls simply getting lost, he assisted with request of local authorities (as is required unless it is w/in FBI jurisdiction, as this was not) with getting the FBI to the scene the next morning. After 5:30 PM, news of the girls going missing went out over the police scanner. Thanks Dee. Distractify is a registered trademark. Yes I thought the suspect had been recorded walking on the raailroad tracks on one of the girls phones. In the Delphi case, a signature could be very evident if both victims . Can you explain to me how LE would know that BG filmed his crime if he didnt send that crime footage to the girls phones? Delphi murders: Killer staged bodies and may have taken souvenir, new documents reveal Shocking new details have come to light about the murders of best friends Libby German, 14, and Abby. No, the other girl was also having sex with males and she also had a boyfriend. We also dont know what he was doing searching down there that night. Because that is a deer kit around his waist. Too many opinions and he cannot control them. If a perpetrator staged the scene, they did that for their benefit. before that he was at dump and after that he went to fish store. There were definitely some perverse acts done to these girls, but I believe they were done to them after they were already dead. Knives were also found at Allen's home, according to the affidavit. How do you know he had a deer kit and how many knives he had? Lets call this the intuitive hunch of an MI veteran. However, shouldnt that same exact principle/logic apply to Mr. X? The crime occurred on February 13, or 2/13. Garrett said he hopes investigators went to all of the local gun stores to see their records of sales of .40-caliber-type weapons. Four people are involved at least peripherally, BG and three others. The gun jammed, which Garrett said is common. 4-lane highway. FSG knew everyone in town. by Anonymous reply 23 February 5, 2021 3:58 PM We are very worried that the police may be trying to pin this crime on Kegan and Tony Kline and we know neither one is involved. Apparently claimed that he saw Mr. X in another town around the time of the murders. Bottom line is our theories now are dramatically more accurate than the 85% error rate we had earlier. I read 1 of them is still in grief counseling for it- so im pretty sure she doesnt wanna talk about it. If you believe the leaked texts were real (and I do), Abby's arms were not spread out and over her head. I dont know if its in a garage, or the shed, perhaps? In an Oct. 13, 2022, interview, Allen told police he saw juvenile girls on the trails east of Freedom Bridge and said he went onto the Monon High Bridge, near where the girls were killed. Derrick German: Libbys father, meth dealer, convict who served time in prison and supposedly ratted people out to get a lower sentence. YesGo to the very first article and I believe there is a Donate button on the page. Young girls menstrual cycles can be so messed up until possibly a few years later. There is evidence that may have worked at a Tyson packing plant in Logansport in 2011-2012. We openly admit that much of what we are saying about this crime are unverified rumors. Important friendships: Very casual friend of Mike Patty, father of one of the girl victims. I wish I could delete this comment because it made no sense. I have seen very poor crime scene photos. "I didn't waaaaaant to, but I didn't want to be called a liiiiiiiiar". If he had those objects found at the crime scene in his truck, he could have easily carried them down to the crime scene and used them to stage it with the objects. Because of the nature of the victims wounds, it is nearly certain the perpetrator of the crime would have gotten blood on his person/clothing, the agent wrote. Stabbing of one girl in the neck artery at some point after the above events. According to Leaker, this is correct. And when they said BG was actually better described as a combination of both sketches, they were correct too. We do not have a copy of that gag order, but we were told that one had been issued by the courts. For five years, the murders of 13-year-old Abby Williams and 14-year-old Libby German have hung over Delphi, ghosts that couldn't be put to rest. You made a mistake my friend. These seem to have been packing plant workers in the Delphi area who get transferred over to the Evansdale area for periods of time to work on sister plants over there. Its odd how there is that other photo of what looks like BG sitting on park bench. Its all about the zero-sum game. CN: Middle aged man, resident of Delphi. An asterisk means the information is proven via LE information leaked to us. The family knew something was wrong. No. You dont have LE sources. I guess I also wonder how everyone put such and effort to look only a few hours after being missing. It is now learned that he was arrested on two counts of murder, however, officials said the case is far from complete.. Point is that he may have never had ceased offending. I am going to bet dollars to donuts there will be a person arrested February 13th, 2022. His full name is Richard Matthew Allen. Start your Independent Premium subscription today. Im not sure about their clothes, but they definitely crossed that creek all right. I am sure he was asked. Finally, after five long years, the Indiana State Police has charged a 50-year-old local man with the Delphi murders of two teenage best friends, Libby German and Abby Williams. A double asterisk means the information is proven by case documents in our possession. He had been there that morning too. Ive been angry at LE today regarding this case. Carroll County Sheriff Tobe Leazenby said the information in the probable cause affidavit is "self-explanatory" and declined to comment further. We regard Leaker as credible, but we now demand sources beyond his level to be considered probative. I cannot remember which girl had taken the photo of the man on the bridge with her cell phone, but I had read somewhere that on that cell phone there was audio of her saying something about a weird man approaching them and that is why she took the photo. 8 Weirdly Specific True Crime Shows That Actually Exist, Chris Watts Bombed His Polygraph Test, and It Led to His Confession, Where Is Convicted Murderer Jeffrey MacDonald Now? They are most likely related to one another, but your description of Mr. X confuses the two. Correct. Join the best Delphi sleuthing group of all! He wasnt searching for his keys early on. We have your fingerprints on the counter.. He just wanted dirty pictures. If he left, LE might tow it or search it. James Chadwell, 43, was added as a suspect in 2021 after he was arrested and convicted for luring a nine-year-old girl to his home where he sexually assaulted and strangled her in his basement,20 miles from where Abby and Libby were murdered. We have an LE source, a detective in Indiana, who told us just that. How many times has he been cleared? Of course, we empathize with their losses, but sympathy wears thin when someone is screaming in your face. They are looking for exactly 43 seconds of audio that BG recorded. I think perhaps I saw the same things this guy did. This has helped me a lot. She feels he is a current POI who is working OT to divert attention away from himself and mislead the public. I am trying to be vague. Others close to the victims, who I will not name, have channeled their grief into rage and lashing out at everyone around them. Not quite sainthood, but getting there. Director of Atlantas Cold Case Research Institute and Atlanta metro-area CSI, Sheryl McCollum, said she believes the killer likely posed the victims bodies, instead of staging, for a form of gratification. Wife left him. On Feb. 13, 2017, the two best How do you know that LE has someone they believe is BG? youre smart enough you should be able to figure it out by these bomb-sized hints we keep dropping. We think people need to stop talking about DNA. If this main POI isnt the bridge guy, he is definitely, without a doubt in my mind, involved in the murders of Abby and Libby in some form or fashion. Multiple, multiple deep stab wounds.. If u could see one, u could see the other. I want to be respectful to someone who is innocent until proven guilty also. With less than 3,000 residents, Delphi is a town where everyone knows one another, and the murders have greatly affected many locals. Kegan Anthony Kline, 27, is allegedly the man behind a fake social media account that investigators. That is because we got these statements either directly from LE, official case documents, or the same conclusions reached independently by two different sources (for this to be false, both sources would have had to make up the exact same lie), or from direct statements from one of the girls guardians. This sub is for discussion of the case that's come to be known as the Delphi Murders. Those aspects of the crime are the following: We feel that these facts are validated because in 1-3, they were seen by us in the crime scene photos and also by a female search party member at the scene, in 4, they were seen by two separate female search party members who had never talked to each other, and in 5, it was verified by a conversation with the girls guardian herself backed up by a postmortem photo. Kegan Kline, 28, of Peru, Indiana, was named as a possible suspect in the girls' murders. Also, if I look at a map showing where the girls were dropped off, seems there is a pretty long trail from that spot onto the railroad bridge. I tune in to their broadcasts and most of it is these narcissists collecting narcissistic supply, which is being doled out by their worshipful audience. Then there is always the question of his occupation. Keep in mind that we are not claiming that anything listed below as Unverified is true, although some it has a good chance of being true. They have also suggested that the crime scene was odd in nature. The comments below have not been moderated, By This March marks the 30 th anniversary of the murder of 21 year-old Penn State student, Dana Bailey. Interestingly, I had NO idea who you were (sorry). The knife in the log was located near the girls right shoulder. The accusation is that she knows something or knows way too much and is covering for someone, presumably the killer. Robert Lindsay isnt just one guy. I do not feel comfortable using his initials or certainly his name. However, I do not know how to contact you Sir. Both girls were posed with their legs spread wide in a sexual posing. Can we prove it? Crime scene photos leaked? Note that it was parked in head first. Possible Harley buddies (friends who ride Harley-Davidson motorcycles), as Mike is an avid Harley rider. Article: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15568704. Could be to cover their own asses. Mr Kline was charged with 30 felonies in 2020 over the case. Kegan Kline, 27, of Peru, Indiana, was also named as a suspect in the murders. However, these are all unconfirmed rumors. I think what you meant to say is that the Supreme Court ruled that if the police lie to a suspect during an interrogation, his eventual admission of guilt can be considered by the jury. Yes, they did record audio of themselves torturing those girls. I would like to know if he has any motorcycle club affiliation, especially regarding a certain outfit with a reputation to be feared around that area? He could have even confessed to me, but I am still not under obligation to tell the cops. But we have said many of the same things, which may be confirmation of my visions in a way. Its a very rare occurrence, only 1.3% of the victims is left in an unusual, corrected position. But many questions still remain around the murders of Abby Williams, 13, and Libby German, 14. I also have to disagree with you about your criticism of the police for calling off the search at 3 AM. Something to think about. Hes laughing b/c theyve been focused upon a completely wrong direction. Thats what we want to talk to him about when our investigators go out there again. Because of the number of people saying this rumor is true, it goes into the likely category. Only his hands, particularly focused on his bloody, sausage-like knuckles, could be seen with a caption that read after the brawl.. Search warrants obtained by a podcast and a local television station are shedding new . And I happen to be trained as a Journalist. 43 sec is probably the time they have of the man on the girls phone recording. Why on Earth would anyone hang around near their vehicle for a full day just because they lost their keys? Miller lived two hours from Delphi at the time of his arrest. I just got banned from Twitter again for no real good reason, so Im not feeling that great. "It seems like there is something more to it than just a gun.". Youre not necessarily going to get that so much with a blunt type of weapon, Morgan said. Well, the police have told us that they have a main suspect in this case, so at least I am just going to go with the cops on this one. The boots appear to be Indiana Packers boots. White scarf covering the lower half of his face. Lets hope they find some peace. Are you speculating? New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast, This is a community where we can speak openly about the Murders of Libby and Abby in Delphi, IN, Press J to jump to the feed. No ones been hurt by this case more than Becky Patty. They recovered Libbys phone, so they wouldnt still be looking for the audio/video. He took a piece of jewelry from Libby as a trophy thats also buried. Here's what we've learned and what remains unclear: Abby and Libby, best friends in the eighth grade, were on a hiking trail in rural Delphi when they were killed in February 2017. "Why would the police withhold [the cause of death]? By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. David, the person involved in the leaked text messages, claimed that the girls died from stabbing. If he didnt have his keys, he could not move his truck. Are they deliberately lying to us? Remember how all these Youtubers trashed Leigh Kerr? An arrest has been made in the Delphi murders of two teens, Libby German and Abby Williams, who were found dead near a walking trail in 2017. . Im sure there are instances where its been used as an effective tactic in helping to solve crimes. Via LE Source A, we have learned that in both crimes: The following are unverified rumors with at least some probability of being true: Indiana LE did not validate the rumors about some aspects of the crime scene such as: This is probably one of the flat-out weirdest aspects of the case of all. A press conference is expected Monday morning. Now, Im not a member of LE, and I have never claimed to have investigation experience, but I believe Im a fairly intelligent person with at least average reasoning skills. John Kelly has some good information. I found your article very interesting and thought provoking. I happen to think he probably did it, but what do I know? Im not saying he is or he isnt, but I would hope that every one of his statements has been gone over with a fine-toothed comb, verified, and re-verified for good measure. The unusual position concepts of posing and staging a murder victim hav For more information, please see our The suspect in a still from the video taken on Libby German's phone. So, to end my novel, I agree with you. The warrant, obtained by the Murder Sheet podcast and released to Indianapolis FOX59, offered no further detail on what the souvenir was, although it did say that 'the rest of [the girls'] clothing was recovered,' implying that the killer had taken something they'd been wearing. The February 2017 killings . Via LE Source A, LE has a main suspect in the Delphi Murders, Mr. X, and the case is focused on him. Considering I often cannot view website news articles because of data protection laws? When we line the two theories against each other, ours wins hands down. Put the competing theory to the logic test.
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